I thought I would post a rather looong comment by our own, Psam, who we love and admire. This is in response to our other valued and endeared AV. He asks AV some questions that I think we can all attempt to respond to. I hope you enjoy, the one, the ONLY----------
Puh-Sam-uel and for the rest of you Psam is writing the following post, which may not be the view of this blog. This view requires disgression. It is not written by Chankslee.
Dear AV,
I only got a chance to read your comments in the last post recently. My internet availability's been scarce.
I'd like to ask you what you mean when you say that you think God is being kept out of schools. I remember several classes in elementary school where I was asked to brainlessly recite "our father who art in heaven..." every morning. I also remember a teacher who regularly read to the class from the Bible every day.I happen to think that neither the Bible nor the "Lord's prayer" have much to do with God, but I was too young and impressionable to ask to be relieved from this expectation. I don't think either of these things did any of the other students any good either.Nonetheless, I think that Biblical Christianity, like a lot of other religions, has some good things to teach people. In Europe, there is a whole subject devoted to religion in schools. They study all religions, and they learn how all of them interact. There is a lot of unbiased study of how much harm individual religions have done throughout history, as well as their contributions to the integrity of communities. This kind of study is, I feel, beneficial to all. An understanding of religion can bring harmony to the world. That's what I would expect you meant by "bringing God into the schools". Enlighten me if you meant differently.The other subject of contention between us was the population explosion and its effect on social stress among the populace, leading to explosive situations like the one currently in light.First of all, I believe that it's a foregone conclusion that the human race can not continue to multiply as it has been without choking the planet to death. I appreciate your sentiment that if my parents were convinced not to procreate, I wouldn't exist. I feel the same about you. I do indeed believe that every human being should be valued. However, in order to look towards the future, it would be good to convince the human race to stop behaving like a tumourous growth on the face of the earth. Please don't think that I'm saying that every single human being should be convinced never to have children. But I do believe that if we try to convince people not to have children, and reduce the birthrate by 50%, then we will be saving the future of our world. Also, I think that it's important that people don't have children unless they have spent countless hours with other people's children prior to doing so. People can enjoy time with the children of their friends or their siblings. If they find that they enjoy this time with children, and they feel a need to live with it around them, then by all means they should not be given any grief for that decision.A lot of people decide to have children for the purpose of "carrying on their line". This mentality should be stricken from human consciousness. It is this mentality that is at the root of the population explosion that the world is being subjected to. Most certainly, if that is people's reason for having children, they should be strongly discouraged by any enlightened people that know them.Please understand that I believe that the most important factor in creating a peaceful world in which all living things exist harmoniously is that our offspring are treated with respect and love. That, and putting Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush in jail for crimes against humanity and warmongering. Put them in the same cell and let them duke it out with each other. Sorry, I know I talk about Bush too much, but he really is an obscene greedy villain who's filled with glee over the war he's created and it disgusts me every time I turn on the television.As to the relevance of the population explosion to acts of mass murder such as the Virginia tech shootings, well, I can understand that you might believe they are unrelated. There is much evidence to support either side of this argument. However, I believe that a rapid surge in population leaves the majority of children with less time and attention given to them by the adults around them. It is not only the responsibility of parents to raise children. It is the responsibility of the entire community in which they live. The less children a community is raising, the more attention those children receive. That works on a small scale and a large scale.I look forward to reading responses to these ideas. It has been a pleasure reading your thoughts, and I hope you've enjoyed mine too.
Psam...........
I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I am having a good one too.
8 comments:
I am one messed up Dude.
According to Psam's Rules.
i.e.
I know all the words of the Lord's Prayer and.....
I have FOUR children and EIGHT grandchildren
How about this:
A bell is not a bell unless you ring it.
A song is not a song unless you sing it.
Love is not in your heart to stay.
Love is not love until you give it away.
dost
I don't believe you are a messed up Dude Dost.
Just because I don't feel that the Lord's prayer has much to do with God, doesn't mean that I don't recognize a lot of other people's prayerful communion through it. Everybody has their own way of perceiving the realms beyond the physical. Some perceive one all-encompassing presence. Some feel the presence of many individual spirits. Some feel a sense of communication on a daily basis. Some believe they will not have any contact until after they die. Some believe there have been many prophets. Some believe there has been only one.
I have way too much respect for you to describe you as "messed up" by any rules.
And as far as children goes, I don't think it's good to judge people for how many children they have had. That would be a bad mistake. I think it's good to offer admiration for the job they've done of giving children a home. However, in looking towards the future, it's a good idea to give people reason to think that they can enjoy their lives without having children. If enough people see the wisdom to this, then our world will survive.
Psam, you speak of enlightened people.
Our Grand parents were of a generation where families had 10 or 12 kids. Our parents were of a generation where families had 2-6 kids sometimes 8 but not so often. Now we are of a generation of 2-4 kids in a family. We are enlightened. I think as Canadians we look around us and there is lots of room yet. The biggest thing is being able to support ones family. The biggest problem areas are China, India, and Africa. China has brought in laws to deal with their population. I don't know about Indias measure but Africa has aids. The world looks after itself. This was an issue way before osama or George.
Aids, cancer, heart disease, and the Flu kill way more people in a year then war. I don't think someone living in Canada should be discouraged from having children if they have the means of supporting them. It is those who have 12 kids because they know 8 of them will die before they reach the age of 10 that need to rethink things. As far as God taken out of the school....I have been saying this for years. You may not see God in the bible because you worship a different God. This country was founded on the Bible and the God that we read of there. Now something is changing and the morals of the country aren't what they used to be. Is our country better off because of this? That's your opinion. My opinion is this country is wavering on the things that it used to stand for. This country is afraid of offending someone. This country no longer has a backbone, well....it no longer has a god.
Bench
Bench. Wow. That is some statement. Psam I think you have to agree. He rebutted you pretty well.
SG
it is afraid of offending anyone and everyone
This country was NOT founded in the name of the Bible. It was STOLEN in the name of the Bible, and the people that lived here before were murdered and had their families destroyed or RIPPED APART in the name of the Bible. We have a shameful past. Our roots are based in blood, savage destruction, and torturous domination. Do not take pride in the history of this ill-founded nation.
Those people were taken out of a far more peaceful and harmonious way of life and had the Bible thrust upon them against their will. Many of their parents were dead, leaving them orphaned with no chance to make their own choices.
The Bible has many instances where "God" is allegedly supporting people as "His chosen ones" in their savage bloody wars against others. I am sorry, but I do not believe this Bible is a representation of a loving God that created us and loves us. It is a disappointing, horrifying document based on times when the human race was an even less civilized, more savage group than it is now.
Psam,
When you see a sign that reads 50kph and you do 80kph....whose fault is it?
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