Tuesday, August 08, 2006

Oh yes terrorists are nice sometimes... and just trying to survive... very hospitable really! Oh wow. I am their ally now....print THIS ONE!



Adnan Hajj and Reuters have embarrassed themselves.

You may come across the disgust of millions of readers against Reuters for the "doctored" photos of a so called Israeli raid upon Lebanon. Adnan Hajj, I guess, didn't want to be too close to the fight, or couldn't be bothered, or was under a tight deadline, or was simply a glory monger, yes I just threw (up) in that word, and brazenly sent in some false photos. Heck why even write an article, I could just copy someone else. I think it could be said, that all reporting by the media on the ground in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and like places will always have a sympathetic slant against the Western World, including the UK, the US and Israel. Why?

One Palestinian journalist told me that “the worst the Israelis can do is take away our press cards. But if we irritate Arafat, or Hamas, you don’t know who might be waiting in your kitchen when you come home at night.”
http://eddriscoll.com/archives/009436.php

I am drawing the conclusion that, to coin the word, "terrorists" are media savvy. They know how to use the media to achieve their own ends. They are organized. They know which journalists produce which pieces and if they do not like what is printed...... Daniel Pearl happens. (google that name)

I don't know if it is unfashionable, or what, but many people I speak with on the streets, ( and yes I do ) reading articles in the press, editorial responses, etc etc are greatly anti nations I mentioned above.. UK....... and affected by what is presented by reputable corportations like Reuters. If the reporters are distorting the facts so they are not KIA'ed; well that is just dead wrong. It seems only in free countries can you actually publish your own view or one of a contrary opinion towards that of your country. I feel greatly they have a responsibility to tell the freaking truth. Do you. Ha ha ha ha ha tell me another one. It will never happen.

(ahem) clear throat. ( sip some coffee) stop. pause. (SIGH)

Okay. I can breathe now. Please disregard the above. Do not pay attention to the spelling mistakes, and the disjointed structure. It is late and I have a day job. It won't happen aga... er I mean hopefully the quality of the BS won't suffer again.

Sorry but the first fake photo is a photoshoppe special I found while surfing, and couldn't find it again after saving it so I could give credit to the person that did it. The second one is from fired correspondant Hajj, which it should be noted, bloggers jumped onto and insisted the photo was a fake. So you Psam, AV, Daost, Targo and the rest DO make a difference.... well.. yeah.

Chank a rama said.....plaftz

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just been thinking, er, um, taking a sip of coffee. Who am I trying to kid.
I think journalist and reporters all started out much like politicians, wanting to save the big, bad, scary world. With all the fame and sometimes money, their dreams and ideals soon become clouded. Or maybe I should say smoky. I wonder what kind of pressure Adnan Hajj was under, that he would jeopardize his career. Or was it his choice?
On the other hand, I don’t think ‘they have a responsibility to tell the freaking truth’. I’m sure you have heard that expression “the truth, as I see it”. I believe it is up to the editor (Reuters) to determine what the truth is or at least what the reading public wants to see and read.

As, for photo number two, I have no idea. It looks fake to me but I have seen images on TV that are very similar so, who am I to say?

Er, um, last slurp of coffee. Thinking again. Maybe Adnan was trying to portray an image that he had seen but was unable to capture. Maybe he wanted to show the grief and anxiety he had been experiencing. You have to admit the first photo is heart wrenching.

Okay, I think I have said enough. Maybe some day I will make a stand.

AV

targo....lost? said...

Well the only way one makes the news is if they create the news. There have been so many photos and stories that have been slanted ever so slightly one way or the other, each station,paper and radio report tugs at the heart strings of their desired demographic. Who really knows what's true anymore. We're only getting the side of the story that they want us to get.

Oh well that is just my personal thoughts and opinions on a mon....eerr tuesday morning ;)

Anonymous said...

Talk to someone who's actually been physically in the first war in Iraq who's had time to recover from the horrific tragedy and helplessness of it all and they'll tell you whether the American government is just as ruthless, cruel and evil as the Iraqi government and Al Qaeda and Hamas. You tell me what reason you see that a government would strictly tell their soldiers NOT to help out civilians that appear to be starving or homeless, under penalty of court martial, which involves jail time, or even death at the hands of "friendly fire", lamented by the ever-so-manipulatable media as a complete accident.
Heroin? Afghanistan? So who's making money off of that, Harper's gang? It never fails that anyone that sends troops in to "stop an evil threat" is getting something out of the deal. Remember, the Russians were in Afghanistan too. Gee, they must miss their opium proceeds! Russian maffia's a big place.
The way to stop people from destroying their lives with drugs like opium is NOT to run around exterminating an entire species of plant. That's INSANE. There are other methods, and yes they are difficult, but at least they have some good effects on the world. It's the same as the government of Canada making it illegal for hemp to grow in Canada to help support the textile industry.

Anonymous said...

I learned something a long time ago but I keep forgetting it for periods of time and then remembering it again. I learned that finding which people in the world to get angry at is less important than soothing your friends minds when you hear from what they are saying that they are angry. Anger is a symptom of pain. It is painful to watch other people get treated viciously, and the symptom of that pain can either be as understandable as crying until one has been distracted from it and focusses on other things to avoid being crippled by the mental anguish. Or, another symptom is anger. Feeling the pain of watching people be ruthlessly killed, whether it's people in the WTC destruction or victims of bombing in the middle east, causes one to get angry and wish to find those responsible and hurt them back. Crying and anger: symptoms of pain. So when I saw that chankslee was angry, what was my first reaction? Get angry as well and find other people to blame to add to the list of casualties. I am sorry this was my reaction chankslee. It was poor judgement. My reaction should have been to tell you that it is indeed tragic and I am sorry that it has upset you. Find goodness in the people around you instead of finding reasons to be angry at those around the world elsewhere, and I shall try to follow this advice too my friend, and I am sorry for the times I haven't been following it.
Hope I haven't yakked at y'all too much now. Thanks for listening and remember, "be nice to America or they'll bring democracy to YOUR country."

Anonymous said...

Psam I realize my thoughts about you on the last post were a little over the top and for that I apologise. I think you will find the reason troops were asked not to help the starving was becasue you couldn't help the numbers of people there. Don't forget Psam armies are for killing people not feeding and giving them flowers. The job of a soldier is to kill. So if they are not doing their job they should be court martialed. If I don't do my job then my boss will suspend me. simple really. take off the rose coloured glasses.

Caboolture

Anonymous said...

If soldiers' job is to kill, then they are not doing the world any good. I would encourage people to convince soldiers' young impressionable minds that they should be quitting their jobs because they are performing atrocities on other people in the world. I am not wearing rose coloured glasses. I simply believe that my part in the world will have a small effect on it, and that if I can be aware of how the world works and which things I'd like to see change, then I can use my voice to try to influence that change to occur. The way I see it, there are a lot of soldiers doing a lot of killing in the world today. The more the message gets passed around that killing people is not a desirable occurrence in the world, the more people will turn away from their desire to join an armed squad. This will reduce the number of people killing in the world.
What would you like to do with your influence in the world Caboolture? See the people killed that you believe to be your enemies? Who are your enemies? Al Qaeda for killing innocent Americans? The American government for killing innocent Iraqis? Hitler for killing all sorts of different people? They're all people! Any organized group that refers to itself as the "government" of a nation and then proceeds to kill people in the name of protecting others is not acting out of interests in humanity. The more people all over the world use their influence on their respective "governments", whichever ones they are closest to, to get them to stop killing people, the more peaceful the world becomes.
Thank you for continuing our conversation. I wanted to hear what thoughts you could offer me further to what you'd previously said. Please write again.

Anonymous said...

Caboolture,
After writing all that and then reading what you'd initially written, I realized that you're most likely joking about what you said, because it's difficult for me to believe that anyone could possibly endorse the idea of people being given the job of killing people as though it's a somehow acceptable thing in the world. If you do indeed believe the things you said, then it seems I can of course draw the conclusion that you do not wish good things on your fellow human beings. It seems that you accept that bombing and killing some people is somehow a good thing. On account that you hold this belief, then it seems fairly evident that one of the greatest things you personally could do for the world is to kill yourself. But since you don't really have any desire to do things that make the world a better place, you probably won't. And paradoxically, if you were to decide that you wanted to make the world a better place, then you would no longer be such a negative person, and thus you would no longer be doing any good killing yourself. It's a strange circle of logic created by your sadly morbid and unhelpful comments. You've really taken a day I was somewhat enjoying and made it more miserable. I would like it if your comments were removed from here so nobody has to read them again. Unless of course you apologize again, and then this time don't go saying something even more disgusting than your previous comment. I suppose you think that the SS in Germany in World War II were just "doing their jobs" in the gas ovens? It's a little different than cooking bread you know?

targo....lost? said...

hey chanks look what I found ;)


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3288406,00.html


it was quite literally handed to me on a silver platter ;)

Anonymous said...

Wasn't the first gulf war a un thing? Americans weren't in charge. America wanted to take out Saddam back then but couldn't because they weren't calling the shots. It all goes back to diplomacy. If you try to please everyone nothing is going to get done. What is the U.N. doing these days? 200 stainless steel ball bearing filled missilles fall on the Jews in a day and yet we talk about Israeli aggression. YES, I think the media is very slanted.

Anonymous said...

Psam the only way there will be peace in the middle east is for the Israeli's to be wiped off the face of the earth. That's why there are people called soldiers.
security guards
police officers
soldiers
They all do the same job depending on who there orders come from ofcourse I'm talking in a general sense. The difference is bigger bad guys so they need bigger guns.
good vs. bad
It just depends which side of the fence you are on. Psam people like you who sit on the fence get hit in the cross fire.
Being a father now means not only do I have a wife to look out for but also a baby girl. There are bad guys out there and we need protection against them. They may come in the form of one person or an organized gang of people or the may come in the form an army. Not everyone loves us, Psam this may come as a shock to you but believe me there are people out there who wish you dead just because you don't believe what they do. That's why we need police and soldiers.

Anonymous said...

Bench,
"Our" soldiers kill innocent people. That makes them "bad guys". If I were to really use the word "our" in a personal sense associating them with me, I would be a "bad guy" too. When it comes down to it, in many ways I AM a "bad guy" just like any other human being on the Earth. I try to disassociate myself from "bad" actions though. That would include bombing innocent people, which the Israelis and Lebanese governments are both doing to people in the adjacent nation, and both governments benefitting from all of these attacks.
I'm not sure where you get this notion that somehow you're on the "good" side and there are other people on the "bad" side but you're obviously a little misguided.
I understand that you want to be protected. Of course I understand that. So do I. All I am telling you today is that the military that you refer to as "ours" has killed innocent people but I don't think you really care about that because they're so far away from you and they're a different race and religion. The only reason I'd be more personally upset about you being the victim of a bombing raid in Canada than hearing about a family being destroyed by a Hezbollah bomb in Israel is because I know you personally, so I would be crushed. That does not mean either case is more or less tragic than the other. Sure, I don't want to get killed, but I'm not going to be so arrogant or egotistical as to say my life is more important than the life of another person around the world killed by North American ("our") soldiers in the name of "fighting terrorism" or "freeing the oppressed people". Freeing the oppressed people?! When you're killing the people you're trying to free, I'd say YOU'RE FAILING PRETTY BADLY AT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
In a way, it does not matter whether the media tries to slant your favour towards either particular nation in a conflict. If you're intelligent, you'll recognize that they're all firing bombs and guns at each other, so they're all being childish and stupid and destructive. America? Al Qaeda? Pretty much the same thing. They both seem to think it's okay to have innocent deaths in the name of trying to accomplish their goals. If you wanna talk about such a simplistic concept as who's "good" and who's "evil", then let's just say that it's pretty hard to deny that a person who's firing a gun to kill another, or a person who's sending a bomb into a populated city, is EVIL. America's done it. Israel's done it. Al Qaeda's done it (with a little help from their friends, not naming any names here). Hezbollah's done it (also with some hellebanep, not naming any names). If you're supporting a nation that wants to send military off to kill and destroy, then YOU'RE evil. The fact that you're not being shown the resulting casualties sure makes you feel pretty good about yourself though, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Psam, what are soldiers for then? If you cannot realize soldiers are for killing people...wow.
Bench you have it right. Psam you are seriously flawed. Maybe you can go tell osama and his friends to kill themselves. yes that would stop all the conflict. Go tell hezbollah to stop kidnapping soldiers and to kill themselves because they are not doing any good for the world. After reading some of your rather long winded digressions I have come to realize that you are probably insane. Go kill myself? Very violent. I have taken that badly. Just because I have a different view than you you think i should kill myself?? These innocent people you talk about are just like me. I am innocent. I have to support my family. You would want me to deny my children the love i give them and kill myself because I see that soldiers kill. That is there job. I reckon you should be banned from this spot with your hostile comments. For someone who is advocating no violence if you read your past remarks it appears you are very violent yourself. Chankslee or whatever your name is I am new here but I do think after reading this zealots posts he should not be welcome here. In fact here in Australia his comments could be construed as a hate crime and he could be detained. I AM NOT JOKING. For those comments he could be detained. I urge you to ban him from this site. Psam keep your Yankee thoughts to yourself. They are not welcome here. For someone who is so violent maybe YOU should consider joining the military. You may have not voted for bush but you would think you would at least support the troops who are dying for America because they believe and trust what your country stands for.
I take personal offence for you suggesting that I kill myself and so does my wife. I come on this blog for my satisfaction and surf the net to keep abreast on world events and shouldn't have to put up with this kind of abuse. I don't deserve it. You are not a nice person.

Caboolture

Anonymous said...

Psam do you actually think the "good soldiers" of north america that would include brits and spain enjoy killing innocents. Innocents are dying because men with guns and missiles are hiding in their houses. I ask you, who is the evil one, the man with a gun shooting at other soldiers but hiding behind women and children. Or the soldier trying to protect women and children. To me a "good soldier" is one who is trying to protect me not trying to kill me. It doesn't get much simpler then that. Bad soldiers are making bases out of hospitals and churches why don't you direct your anger at them. Why do you think so many canadian and american soldiers are dying? They can't tell the innocent from the terrorist! So while they try to figure it out, they get blown away. I'm not saying they are perfect, under the extreme tension they make mistakes. But can you really blame them? It's killed or be killed. As far as Hezbollah goes they don't even belong in lebonon. Like a big bully they just moved in after the Israeli's pulled out 6 years ago. So why are innocent people dying in Lebenon? The lebenon army isn't strong enough to move hezbollah out so innocent people die. The soldier has a tough job, but it has become a whole lot tougher now that men with guns hide behind women and children.

Anonymous said...

caboolture,
If you read what I had said at all, you'd know I didn't say go kill yourself. Reread it, and then get back to me. I apologize for the obvious offense you've taken. Clearly you're as upset as I am. Perhaps I should as you said be detained, and you could question me.
If we're both so upset, it must be because we've both seen a situation causing a lot of harm, destruction, and suffering on people in the world who we care about. You're upset by well-intentioned soldiers being put in harm's way trying to help people who are being oppressed. I'm upset because I don't believe any soldiers are doing those oppressed people more good than harm, so I would like to see soldiers everywhere desert and go home and do something productive with their lives. We're both upset because we both care about other people. We just simply are disagreeing as to how the situations can be further pursued to help the people we care about. I respect this about you. Please don't allow any of my comments to be interpreted to mean I wish harm upon you.
I would like to continue this conversation because obviously we both have a lot to learn from each other, given that we have such different viewpoints. I saw Mr. Bush on television today and once again, I never once heard him sound apologetic about the fact that some American military actions bring harm upon people. I never heard him acknowledge that his position is a burden, not a glorious honour. He thinks he's the hero. He doesn't see himself as a man facing great tragedy in the world and mourning that it has to happen. He never said "for all the times an American bomb that was meant to destroy the lives of people plotting destruction has mistakenly carried away innocent lives instead, I feel sorrow".
I said previously that I believe that all the governments involved in this conflict have people in their employ which are attempting to escalate and profit from this conflict rather than stop it so that people are not endangered. That includes Al Qaeda, America, Lebanon, Israel, Iran, and Hezbollah as well as many others. That is the initial point I was trying to make which sparked this somewhat verbally abusive and unproductive blog confrontation, so let's get back to that point and see if we can figure out how to understand each other's point of view better. Explain how you disagree, and perhaps you'll be convincing someone you obviously believe to be dangerous to the world to stop being so dangerous. It is an opportunity for you. I expect you'll do well.

Anonymous said...

Here's another statement I made which is probably another good starting point to get back to where our initial disagreements lay. I believe that a government that instructs its troops not to give aid to the people that live in a place they are occupying is as evil as the Nazis. The alleged point of sending troops to Iraq was to try to protect the innocent Iraqis from their murderous government. The actual reason a lot of people think that troops were sent to Iraq was so that America could use the oil from the region, sort of the same situation as if someone walked into a gas station, filled their car up with gas, and then held a gun up to the attendant, said "I'm not paying for this" and then drove away. But at least if we want to give America the benefit of the doubt and recognize that there are people in Iraq who were suffering under Saddam's oppressive and ruthless regime, we can have faith that many Americans' motives were that they wanted to help those people. So why would they then tell their soldiers not to give aid (food or clothing or shelter) to any of the people that lived there under penalty of court martial? My supposition is of course that the American government could care less about suffering innocent Iraqi people and just wanted their oil cheap. Once again, caboolture and bench, I am sorry my previous statements offended you so much, but hopefully I have now expressed my views in a way that is more direct, and perhaps now we can benefit from some relevant conversation about the things we disagree on, instead of throwing useless insults at each other.

targo....lost? said...

If you can only see this Blog entry and not the 2 new ones that Chanks has added please refresh your browser......if you can see them where are you and why aren't you here???

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